. >> so that tells me even though we for so many people, the psychological number, eight, not that we're under the 8% mark in unemployment, do the obama folks think we're not over the hump, economically speaking? >> they concede that and that people are still hurting and what matters to people at home is not some number that the labor department puts out, but their own economic circumstance and whether they have a job, whether they know somebody unemployed and this is very abstract. so people are still hurting. but in terms of the political gamesmanship, 8% is an important marker because when the president passed the stimulus, one of his economists projected, it wasn't a promise, but a projection that 8% would be -- we would not be above 8% with the stimulus and because we were for so long, republicans were able to say the stimulus didn't work, now they can say, look, there is evidence that political football can maybe go away for now. >> jessica yellin, thank you. that's one interpretation of today's number. let's get the other side, the new jobs report forced republican mitt romney to